---COOPER: And it's totally out of their control. I mean, I have always found that when you -- it's almost that term, refugees. You kind of make assumptions about who they are. But, in fact, they are, I mean, they are everyone. We all could be refugees at one point or another in our lives. And, all of a sudden, to have that lack of control, I always just find such a -- a sad thing.

JOLIE: Yes. And I think that happened with the Balkans. I think a lot of people suddenly saw refugees that looked like them. And it was a different thing. It was a , it was a new thing.

---COOPER: Do you go through phases? I mean, when I first went to Somalia in the early '90s during the famine, I remember being overwhelmed. And then I felt like I was going through phases, the more wars I would go to, you know, of anger, and then er, you know confusion

JOLIE: Yes.

---COOPER: ... and then outrage, and then sort of resignation, then sort of er, an open feeling that allows me to continue doing it. But do...

JOLIE: Yes.

---COOPER: Do you go through those phases?

JOLIE: I did. Yes. I don't know which phase I'm in now. But I did. I went through -- I went through a definite phase of being, er, I think, just shocked at first. And then I wanted to save the world. And I was sure I could save the world.

---COOPER: Mmm-hmm.

JOLIE: And then I was -- and then I did feel helpless and just angry.

---COOPER: A doctor in Niger said to me who was with this group Doctors Without Borders, which I'm a big fan of, said, you know, he -- he tells the nurses not to cry in front of the mothers. He said, that's not your job, that you're -- you know, if you want to cry, go cry somewhere in a corner, but don't -- you can't do it in front of the mothers, because it's not fair to them, because then they will worry about, what's going to happen to my kid, which I just found -- I don't know. It's always sort of stayed with me.

JOLIE: Yes. I kept a journal for the -- I still do when I go into the field. And I think part of it was just me being able to do this and not -- and not look at the...

---COOPER: Yes. It helps.

JOLIE: Not cry. Yes.

---COOPER: It makes it easier sometimes.

JOLIE: I'm working.

---COOPER: Yes. Believe me, I know that feeling. I also read the statistic, which I know you know, is that -- that a child is orphaned every 14 seconds, which is just, again, it just -- it's hard to wrap your mind around, you know?

JOLIE: Yeah. No, it's -- it's unbelievable. And -- and that's another thing that they have been -- we have been recently fighting for, you know, all the AIDS orphans and all the kids that are out there, because...

---COOPER: But you, you were very supportive of a bill that, that actually passed and got signed by the president...

JOLIE: Yeah.

---COOPER: ... but then wasn't funded for a long time.

JOLIE: Yes. It was...

---COOPER: Is -- has it been funded?

JOLIE: It was one of my first lessons in Washington. It was like, oh, a bill. I'm pushing for a bill. The bill passed. Success. And then somebody said, and now the funding. And I thought, and now the funding? I thought was that was the whole...

---COOPER: And it's still not funded.

JOLIE: But you realize that, no, that that's, you know, first, they, they make it a priority to do it. And then, and I, I don't, I don't, you know, there are a lot of people that are going to come together. And I will spend more time in Washington, try to raise this funding, and hope that the funding doesn't come from somewhere else.