So once again, are we talking about genetics here
还是那个问题,这是基因原因吗
No, there's something else that has changed
显然不是,肯定有其它因素
And the question is what
问题是,什么因素
The other piece that I should add is that when Cameroonians move to the big cities
另外我还要讲一点,喀麦隆人到大城市后
like Yaounde and live there for a generation or two
比如雅温得,在这里经过一两代人
they start to get colon cancer at the same rate as they do in Europe or the United States
就开始和欧洲或美国人一样大量患结肠癌了
So we know that there's something in the traditional villages that is very protective
可见,传统村庄中具有很具保健性的因素
They are all part of the same family of diseases very much and yes.
所有这一类疾病,对,
It did not seem, This is something that by the way that was just studied recently
他们都没有,最近有人研究过这些
There is a guy named Burkitt, who in the 1950s and 60s traveled around Africa and made the same observations
研究者叫Burkitt,他上世纪五六十年代去非洲也发现此现象
So this is a-- yeah, same guy, yeah
对,同一个人,对
So he was an Irishman and he ended up in Uganda and did the same studies
他是个爱尔兰人,在乌干达做了这个研究
So, I am just gonna put my favorite dish which is called ndole from Cameroon
下面讲我最喜欢的菜,喀麦隆的ndole
out there as my example of what the protective diet of the region that I was in
我认为这是当地保健饮食的典范
Now to some you this might look like just a mush on the plate
你们也许觉得它看起来就是一团浓粥
but I am telling you that this is the best food you've ever tasted in your life
不过它绝对是你们吃过的最好吃的
And it is a mixture of groundnuts, a little tiny bit of beef, some fish
菜里混合有花生、少量牛肉、鱼
has palm fruit oil in it and it has tons of wild greens and garlic and
棕榈果油,以及很多野生青菜,还有大蒜
it's one of those rare dishes that has fish and meat and sometimes somehow works
有肉有鱼的菜很少有这么健康的