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That is the victims themselves internalise the aggressor, they will show domestic violence er violence in other situations as well.
这是因为受害者把自己内化为攻击者，会出现家庭暴力的情况甚至在其他社会情况下出现暴力行为.
I, er in 20 years working in the Kovler Center I've sent that maybe 2-3 times
我在卡弗勒中心工作了20年了在我们和流亡者合作时看到过2-3次这种情况
so it's not a common manifestation what we've seen working with refugees working there.
所以这种情况并不常见
On the other hand, what I want to speak to is not just the negative side of it but the positive side of this.
另一方面，我想说的是不仅仅是其消极的一面也是积极的一面.
There was an article about 2 years ago that came out of Columbia University by George Bonanno on resilience
两年前有篇文章是哥伦比亚大学的乔治·皮诺撒写的是关于恢复力的问题，
and it was really paradigm shifting at least for me saying that if we look for trauma that if we look for symptoms, that's what we're going to find
至少在我看来这代表了范式的转变，如果我们关注创伤如果我们关注症状我们会得到这些结论
and he looked at 2 conditions both grieving or bereavement and er trauma and he said that maybe we've over diagnosed,
他关注两种情况，一是悲痛或者是丧亲之痛，二是创伤他认为我们可能把它们过于夸大了
that when we see people with incredible suffering we tend to look for the symptoms and we find what we look for.
一般当我们看到经历了巨大折磨的人我们会寻找这些症状然后我们找到预期的目标
He argued instead that if you look you'll also see resilience, that people can go through these experiences
他认为，相反如果我们我们还会看到人们的恢复能力人们在经历这些经历后
and come out of them perhaps even in some ways the stronger for it.
走出来，甚至有些时候更变得更加强大
Not certainly easily or always but it does happen and our experience at Kovler over and over again we see people struggling with huge, huge degrees
当然，这种情况的发生并不容易，也不常见但是我们在中心工作时一再看见人们与巨大的折磨作斗争
of suffering and show incredible resilience that leaves us in awe.
并且表现出令人难以置信的坚强力让我们目瞪口呆，为之敬畏
And I know it'll maybe sound a little emotional or corny but it is really why this work is not depressing to do
我知道这可能听起来太过感情用事或者陈词滥调，但是这才是为什么我们的工作做起来并不艰难，令人沮丧的原因，
because you see the capacity to survival the capacity to mobilise the resources and to get on with their lives in ways that we wouldn't have predicted.
因为你会看到人类生存的能力，调动资源的能力用我们之前无法预见的方式继续自己的生活
I will finish up if I can with er kind of a snapshot to illustrate how this plays out.
最后结束时，我会快速回顾一下
Um, but I'll briefly sketch what goes into the treatment.
这个观点下面我要大概介绍一下治疗的情况
